Guess may have found something that kind of works. I got a walk through baby gate. Had to put a pressure baby gate outside of it since Matthew can walk through one spot on it. It makes it so Andrew can watch them in their safe room. I have been leaving them out when I am home and we have growling and hissing all coming from Matthew. Andrew just keep going where he wants. At feeding and bedtime and when I am eating they have to be in their room. These 2 steal people foods. Andrew won't eat if they are out as he worries about them getting his food. I think this will work. They are afraid of Kory still so that will take time. He barks at them every time he sees them and his bark is high pitched. Will give new update when by the end of the weekend

That is good start. It take a time Matthew and brother get use to Andrew and Kory.

Vili&Pinja hiss and try look big when they see Viivi dog. Viivi is a big and Black (but very nice) so it must be very scary to kitten ( they were smaller then Viivis head). Viivi want so much to know that those hissing little things are, she lay down to floor and just look at Pinja&Vili.

Vili try to steal chicken or pork or fish when I do dinner 🙂. Pinja sit and wait if something will come to plate.

Today not sure what is wrong. Andrew was acting normal but let Matthew and Nate out of safe room after Andrew had gone to his sleeping box. Matthew came and fell asleep on my bed with me and then Andrew came in and laid with me. He then got up and left and didn't come back. At supper time I put the boys back in their safe room just incase Kory gets to were he isn't allowed plus he is very hyper at supper time. Well Andrew always helps with supper. Had to take the gate down that keeps Kory in his area so Andrew could look in the boys safe room to make sure they are in there. When he was done then all was good. Kory was outside while we made suppers. Andrew always gets fed first since we put Alex to sleep and the babies are last. Andrew ate up did his potty and I haven't seen him since I checked his dish. He was just lying looking sad. I keep thinking I made a mistake taking these little boys in. Alex never did this when I brought Andrew in. Misty was gone before I brought Alex and Hugo home. Matthew didn't hiss or growl at him when we were laying down. I don't know. I hate keeping the babies in the safe room but also hate the way Andrew is when they are out. The babies are uses to being alone since the girl was very rarely home and they were alone. They have things to play with in the room too. The room is were Andrew uses to spend time in his chair. I just don't know. It has almost been a month since they first saw each other. We both may still be missing Alex. I may be pushing the babies on Andrew too fast. He hasn't hissed or growled since he came into the safe room to help me clean litter pans and stuff. I leave the gate open when I go in there and when Andrew comes I welcome in. Nate comes up and sits and watch him. Andrew has smelled him and walked past him. I am hoping all the problems is Matthews mouth and will go away soon. Andrew is the only one that can get to me at bed time. That may always be our time. Yes I have played with Andrew alone. He is just so sad looking. Everyone keeps telling me he will get over it. But it hurts seeing him. Thanks for letting me use all your times.

It take time. Sometimes less and sometimes more.

Nights with Andrew and you is good idea because then Andrew know that you keep him above little boys.

And try Feliway too.

Meowmy

Feliway hasn't helped. I got a walk through baby gate so no more escapes. Everything was going slowly this weekend till today. I had to take the baby boys to the VET for their last set of shots. They have to use the carrier I took Alex in the last time. Andrew saw them in it when I left this morning. Well when I cam home there was an argument between Andrew and Matthew. I carried them to their room and then opened the carrier. I took my parents out to eat right after dropping them off. I left them in their room for today. Andrew has been acting weird ever since I got home from eating. He has been on me which he has never done. Yes he is eating and doing his potty business. It is mainly Matthew that the problem is with. Nate hasn't hissed once. He hardly comes out to the room because he is afraid of Kory. It is the last time the boys have to go in till next year I hope. I have been under blanket and Andrew is acting like Matthew is under them but they are my feet. I have been playing with a laser toy that Andrew found in a kitten pack I got for the boys. Something horrible happened yesterday that effected Matthew but Andrew didn't care a bit. I block Kory in an area when I am feeding. Well Matthew got into the area after I put him out of it many times. Well Kory came in and saw a new kitty and the chase was on. He never caught Matthew and Andrew was ok after it happened. I am sure hoping that this is because of me being gone with the boys. Figures and toes crossed

How there is going?

Me not yik dem boys. Me meowmy maked me babysitted dem when her worked. Me do get paid when her gets home. Me getz 6 COOKIES!!!!!! 2 for each one me babysitted. Yep me charged her for Kory too. Me meowmy getted a big gate but today dat one brat Matfew jumped it tonight. Me gived me meowmy snakeeyes. Posse to be me day. Me meowmy yet dem out bes out and wented to bed yast night and maked me mad. Me meowmy bedtime is me time. Me gunna get Kory to get dem. Don't tell meowmy.

They are doing better. Matthew is the biggest problem. He keeps doing the major hissing. Andrew just goes away when they are out. I did fall asleep last night and Andrew was not happy. I have been splitting my time with the boys. Can't wait till there doesn't have to be a gate anymore. Nate has been getting braver. He won't go to the area where Kory is which is good then Andrew's area is safe. Andrew will come in their room when I am in there cleaning the pans and stuff. He gets a cookie in there if he is quiet. He has gotten a couple of them. I think when Matthew stops with his mouth things will be better. Andrew just watches Nate at what he is doing. I am glad Nate is traveling from the safe room. He doesn't like it when Matthew leaves him. Matthew is the youngest  so that is funny. So we are still at work but now seeing improvements.

Mom

Nice and happy to hear that things are going better with boys. Little steps and day by day.

Meowmy

Me bratty bruder Matfew dupid. Him tried to come out of him room drew the gated. Meowmy say it walk drew but him no not how open door. Him gotted stuck. Me Slave Space dog Kory almosted gotted him. He needed uses him head but me no dink him can since him baby. Me yaffed at him. Me no uses me voice. Me meowmy say me good boy.

Yep Andrew is telling the truth. I was cleaning their pans and Kory and Andrew were on the other side of the gate. I am now more worried about Kory hurting Matthew. Nate won't go near Kory. I turned and looked and that little boy was stuck in the gate. He can get through it with the door shut. He walks between where the door latches and the gate. He was trying to go through the bars. I had to laugh first and then try to help him. He was out before I got to him. He isn't as afraid of Kory as Nate is. It was funny seeing Andrew's face while this was going on. I wouldn't had noticed if Kory didn't start barking. Matthew is fine not the first time. He is a small kitten so even have to uses 2 gates to keep them in the safe room. Yep the walk thru and a pressure baby gate cause the little brat can walk right out of the room if he goes through the right opening.

Matthew don´t know what danger is?

Yes, Kory can hurt him or Matthew can hurt Kory by smack to eyes. We always say to Viivi "don´t go too close cat behind with nose. They don´t like it". Cats smack Viivi if she go too close. 

Is there something high where boys can go but Kory can´t?

When Viivi was baby she came out from bedroom true catdoor. Catdoor is small and Viivi was bigger 😆 

Meowmy

Me so madded at Matfew today. Me meowmy comed home and her letted dem out afer her paided me 6 cookies for babysitted. Matfew go and him getted in me birdie tv box bed wif me now blankie. Me showed me meowmy and her telled him it Andrews not you bed and her maked him get out. Den it was time for me to eatted so dem got to go to der room. Kory is no allowed on da floor cover me meowmy called car pet. Him no eatted me chuckies so baby gate no let him. Dumb babies jump it so Kory getted dem. Dey runned to stairs and Kory no follow. Dey no go in Kory and me area Kory no getted dem. Me rule. But me no uses me outside voice today and justed bop Nate on top of him head one time cause him passed by me and me on me stool. Me funny

Lady Nöpö do sometimes same thing to everybody. She sit on stool and smack from there 😆

Vili